Nomination Clarifications #2

[purpleyin]

We're now at about 340 fandoms and 1978 ships nominated. And we've currently got another 41 fandoms to look at. We have a countdown here for how long until nominations close.

Update on the glitch that was happening - it was mainly happening to Marvel 616 nominations, with a couple of Stargate ships also rejected. Thankfully, AO3 support was able to change the rejected nominations back to not rejected for us, so people should be seeing Marvel 616 nominations going through okay now.

We have a few fandoms we want input on since we're not familiar with them and what level of shared characters and canon there is. Firstly, Pocket Monsters | Pokemon (Main Video Game Series) and Pokemon Rangers, would fan of these recommend combining into a general Pokemon (Video Games) category or keeping them separate? We also have a number of Yu-Gi-Oh Anime & Manga fandom nominations, which we're currently assuming probably ought to be kept as separate but would appreciate input on whether that is best too: Yu-Gi-Oh! VRAINS, Yu-Gi-Oh! GX, Yu-Gi-Oh! ARC-V, Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters (Anime & Manga), Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D's, Yu-Gi-Oh! Zexal and Yu-Gi-Oh! - All Media Types.

If you nominated any The Umbrella Academy ships, please let us know if any are missing from the tag set. One of the nominations accidentally got most of the first character cut off and while I'm fairly sure I remembered what it was, and have added that manually into the tagset, it would be good for people to check just in case I misremembered and there's anything missing.

If you nominated Annabeth Chase (Percy Jackson)/Percy Jackson (Percy Jackson)/Dick Grayson (DCU) under Crossover - Fandom, can you let us know if you mean Percy Jackson books, films or any version.

If you nominated Clint Barton (Marvel)/Kurt Wagner (Marvel)/Dick Grayson (DCU) under Crossover - Fandom, can you let us what you mean by Marvel - is it MCU, X-Men Original or Alternate timeline movies, or if comics which Marvel comics universe.

If you nominated Kurt Wagner (Marvel)/Pietro Maximoff (Marvel)/Dick Grayson (DCU)/Wally West (DCU) under Crossover - Fandom, can you let us what you mean by Marvel - is it MCU, X-Men Original or Alternate timeline movies, or if comics which Marvel comics universe.

If you nominated MacGuyver (MacGuyver)/Tony Stark (MCU)/Bruce Wayne (DCU) under Crossover - Fandom, we assume you mean Angus "Mac" MacGyver but could you let us know if you mean MacGyver (1985 TV series) or MacGyver (2016 TV series) or either of them.

If you nominated The Doctor/Jack Harkness/River Song/Rose Tyler under Doctor Who, please clarify what version of the The Doctor you're referring to.

If you nominated The Doctor/The Master/The Rani under Doctor Who, please clarify what version of the The Doctor, The Master, and The Rani, you're referring to.

If you nominated Tegan Jovanka/Nyssa of Traken/Any Female Character(s) under Doctor Who, do you mean any canon female characters or literally any female characters, including original female character(s).

If you nominated Peter Parker (Spider-Man 2001)/Peter Parker (The Amazing Spider-Man)/Peter Parker (MCU) under Marvel Cinematic Universe, we assume you probably mean the Tobey Maguire version from Spiderman 2002 and Andrew Garfield Spiderman for the first two characters since they have appeared in the MCU but please can you confirm.

If you nominated Clint Barton (MCU)/Pietro Maximoff (MCU)/Pietro Maximoff (X-Men: Alternate Timeline Movies) under Marvel Cinematic Universe, we assume you meant Peter Maximoff from X-Men but wanted to check since there's also Pietro Maximoff in WandaVision as played by Evan Peters and this was nominated under MCU. If you meant Peter Maximoff from X-Men, we would probably consider this a crossover ship instead, although feel free to put forth why you believe it belongs in the MCU and we may reconsider that.

If you nominated Adil/Abigail Bellweather/Gregoria Shellbark/Tally Craven under Motherland: Fort Salem (TV), can you confirm if you meant to type Gregorio Shellbark or is Gregoria another character?

If you nominated Marlene Alraune/Layla El-Faouly/Steven Grant/Jake Lockley/Marc Spector under Moon Knight (TV), can you confirm whether Marlene Alraune actually appears in the TV show? From what we could tell looking online it looked like she wasn't, which would make this a crossover ship instead, but none of the mods have seen it yet to be sure.

If you nominated Darlene Conner/Molly Tilden/Marcy (Roseanne) under Roseanne, could you confirm if you mean the character Marcy Bellinger who appears on the related show of The Connors or another character?

If you nominated Hernando Fuentes/Lito Rodriguez & Daniela Velasquez under Sense8, please can you edit that to be a "/" rather than a "&". If you want to request that a relationship be asexual/queerplatonic/etc., then that's something to include in your details when signing up.

If you nominated Zakia Asalache/Capheus Onyango/Jela/Jela's wife under Sense8, can you confirm if you mean Eleana for Jela's wife?

If you nominated Jadzia Dax/any characters of species described but not depicted onscreen under Star Trek: Classic Timeline, we're a bit concerned this might be too hard to define, especially if people might not have seen all the Classic Trek timeline shows, could you let us know if there's any kind of list online that keeps track of this for example.

If you nominated Raffi Musiker/Seven of Nine/B'Elanna Torres AU under Star Trek: Classic Timeline, can you clarify what you mean by B'Elanna Torres AU. If it's an AU version of her from a particular episode the episode name added would help identify who you mean.

If you nominated Raffi Musiker/Seven of Nine/B'Elanna Torres freeform under Star Trek: Classic Timeline, can you clarify what you mean by freeform, is this referring to the AO3 tag as a freeform tag or something else?

If you nominated Miguel Diaz/Ronny Keene/Tory Nichols/Samantha LaRusso under Cobra Kai (TV), did you mean Robby Keene instead?

If you nominated Padmé Amidala/handmaidens under Star Wars - All Media Types, do you mean handmaidens generally or did you mean specifically Royal Naboo Handmaiden Characters.

If you nominated Vegas AU Rodney McKay/Vegas AU John Sheppard/John Sheppard under Stargate - All Media Types, for Vegas AU do you mean the Vegasverse versions?

If you nominated Ivan Vorpatril/Byerly Vorrutyer/OMC under Vorkosigan Saga - Lois McMaster Bujold, did you mean Original Male Character(s) or something else?

If you nominated Elizabeth Burke/Peter Burke/Neal Caffrey and Neal Caffrey/Mozzie under White Collar, please can you edit that to be all one ship usng a "/" rather than two linked with an and. If you want to request that parts of an OT4 relationship be asexual/queerplatonic/etc., then that's something to include in your details when signing up.


If you have any questions about what fandom to use when making nominations, or any other questions in general, please feel free to leave a comment on this post. You can also send an e-mail to holly.poly.exchange@gmail.com.

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Comments

[zabbers]

For Star Trek Jadzia Dax/any characters of species described but not depicted onscreen I’m not aware of any list that would be useful for modding purposes, and completely understand how that would be tricky for checking! I’ve got lots of options, and I’m fine with letting this one drop.

For Stargate Vegas AU Rodney McKay/Vegas AU John Sheppard/John Sheppard, yup, I do mean Vegasverse.

[purpleyin]

Thanks for confirming. I've changed the SGA nom to say Vegasverse for both characters and approved it now.

For the Star Trek nomination, I think we're gonna have to say no to it since it's hard to define. Are you able to change the nomination to reuse the slot? If not, let me know and we can change it for you if you have something else you want to nominate for Star Trek: Classic Timeline.

[zabbers]

I’m not worried about it! I’ve still got slots free (though I did take the opportunity to delete it and keep my nominations page nice and clean). Thanks for the offer!

Love the icon!

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I meant Robby. I was in a rush and didn't notice the autocorrect!

[purpleyin]

Thanks for confirming that, I changed it to Robby and it's approved now with a slight order change to alphabetize it.

[egssyoucantsmoke]

Hallo, Umbrella Academy Human here. Double checked the one that got sliced in half and you remembered it perfectly so all good!! They all look right to me!! :D

[purpleyin]

Thanks for confirming it was corrected right.

[quailfence]

Nyssa/Tegan/Any female character(s) - yes, I mean any female character, including OFC(s) and Genderswap/Rule 63

[purpleyin]

Thanks for confirming, I approved it as is last night.

[(Anonymous)]

Several of these are me, hhh, so I'll try and go through clarifications instead of... hiding in embarrassment, haha.

Clint Barton (Marvel)/Kurt Wagner (Marvel)/Dick Grayson (DCU) under Crossover - Fandom: I don't actually care what versions of Clint or Kurt, personally, but if mainline comics is easier than that wishy-washy answer, that's more than fine.

For Kurt Wagner (Marvel)/Pietro Maximoff (Marvel)/Dick Grayson (DCU)/Wally West (DCU) under Crossover - Fandom: same thing, but if specifying is better, mainline comics Kurt and ATS X-Men movies.

For MacGuyver (MacGuyver)/Tony Stark (MCU)/Bruce Wayne (DCU) under Crossover - Fandom: I honestly forgot his full name, sorry. Either series is fine (but if specificity is preferred, 1985 series)

For Peter Parker (Spider-Man 2001)/Peter Parker (The Amazing Spider-Man)/Peter Parker (MCU) under Marvel Cinematic Universe: I can't believe i hit the 1 instead of 2, but yeah, Maguire/Garfield/Holland Spiders was the intent.

For Clint Barton (MCU)/Pietro Maximoff (MCU)/Pietro Maximoff (X-Men: Alternate Timeline Movies) under Marvel Cinematic Universe: I was struggling with crossover ships, so I probably just forgot to put it under Crossover. But the intent was the ATS Quicksilver (there's so many Marvel Peters, I just don't like calling a perfectly good Pietro "Peter," sorry for the confusion).

I think that's everything. Sorry for the confusion,,,

[purpleyin]

Hi. Sorry to take a while to get back to you on this. You might have spotted the MacGyver and Peter Parker and the MCU/X-men crossover nominations we'd approved with some slight edits for clarity.

For:
Clint Barton (Marvel)/Kurt Wagner (Marvel)/Dick Grayson (DCU) under Crossover - Fandom:
Kurt Wagner (Marvel)/Pietro Maximoff (Marvel)/Dick Grayson (DCU)/Wally West (DCU) under Crossover - Fandom:

If you're happy with literally any version of Clint or Kurt, from any of the comics and any of the films (MCU or X-Men either timeline) they're in then we could approve them as:

Clint Barton/Kurt Wagner (Marvel comics or films - any version)/Dick Grayson (DCU)
Kurt Wagner/Pietro Maximoff (Marvel comics or films any version)/Dick Grayson (DCU)/Wally West (DCU)

But anyhow, let me know if that works for you, if I understood correctly.

[(Anonymous)]

Hello, Padmé/handmaidens nominated here! I did mean any of the Royal Handmaidens from her time as Queen, or any of her handmaidens from her time as senator. I can provide specific characters if that makes it easier, but honestly I’m not all that picky.

[purpleyin]

Thanks for the clarification. I think handmaidens might not be specific enough, but Padmé Amidala/Padmé Amidala's Handmaidens would cover what you want (although may also cover a couple other handmaidens from other times in her life). Let us know if that change would work for you or not.

[(Anonymous)]

That sounds good! Thank you!!

[hadrian_pendragon]

Under Yu-Gi-Oh - All Media Types, I know I made a nom for Atem/Fudou Yuusei/Mutou Yuugi/Yuuki Judai | Jaden Yuki under it because those characters are from multiples (Duel Monsters, GX, and 5D's), if that helps any!

I also see that under Genshin Impact, Diluc/Venti has been approved, though I think there was a typo, as it should be Albedo/Diluc/Venti. Apologies!

[purpleyin]

Sorry for the error, I must've accidentally hit one of the autosuggested AO3 tags when I was amending the tag to add the fandom disambiguation to the end of it. Added that in manually now.

[merryfortune]

Yu-Gi-Oh! fan here. In general yes, we keep our borders up between series just because some of them have different continuities and stuff. So I agree its probably best to keep DM under Dm, GX under GX, so on and so forth but it also wouldn't hurt to just put them under the series banner as well on the off chance someone wants or can write a bucket maybe? So far I've only nominated Vrains exclusively. But wow! Big job, good luck.

[southerncontinentskies]

Vorkosigan nominator - I did mean Original Male Character, yes. I can get more specific if necessary (eg, specifying a canonical type/group), but I specifically wanted to avoid something like "Any Male Canon Character" because that set contains too many options I'd prefer not to opt in to.

ETA: also the optional plural is fine ("Character(s)") if that's the preferred style - I just didn't want to lock into 4+ instead of 3+.

[purpleyin]

Thanks for clarification, I'd approved it as "Ivan Vorpatril/Byerly Vorrutyer/Original Male Character(s)".

[ladyjax]

Hi, I nominated Adil/Abigail Bellweather/Gregoria Shellbark/Tally Craven. And yes, it should be Gregorio Shellbark.

[purpleyin]

Thanks for confirming, approved now.

[(Anonymous)]

I think "Percy Jackson" and "Heroes of Olympus" should be merged, since they're very closely connected and the latter is a direct sequel to the former. Also, one of the ships in the former (Jason/Percy/Nico) already involves a character only introduced in the latter.

[purpleyin]

Thanks for letting us know, we've merged them now.

[(Anonymous)]

Hi, I nominated The Doctor/The Master/The Rani. I have changed it to First Doctor/First Master/First Rani, would that be ok?

[purpleyin]

Yes, that is fine, I have approved it now. Thanks for the clarification.

[chancellorxofxtrash]

Yu-Gi-Oh person here, I nominated multiple spinoffs from it, and I think that it's better to keep them in their separate fandoms, as they are all mostly separate stories.
If the ships are crossover (as someone else mentioned above), then that should probably go to AMT, though.

[soryenn]

Another Yu-Gi-Oh nominator here, seconding both of those points.

[keenquing]

for The Doctor/Jack Harkness/River Song/Rose Tyler , meant the Ninth Doctor!

[purpleyin]

Thanks for the clarification, approved now.

[dauntlessshadowice]

In s04e4 of Roseanne, Marcy is told to be one of Darlene’s friends. She never appears on screen, though, and I’m not sure if she has to make an actual appearance in order to count as part of the exchange or not.

[purpleyin]

Thanks for the clarification, I've approved it as "Darlene Conner/Marcy (Darlene's Friend)/Molly Tilden (Roseanne)".

Percy Jackson Books vs. Movies

[(Anonymous)]

Hi,

Sorry I didn't specify. I meant Percy Jackson books (so, Percy Jackson and the Olympians, Heroes of Olympus, and/or Trials of Apollo).

Re: Percy Jackson Books vs. Movies

[(Anonymous)]

Sorry again. This is for Annabeth Chase (Percy Jackson)/Percy Jackson (Percy Jackson)/Dick Grayson (DCU)...which is also in the wrong order 😅

Re: Percy Jackson Books vs. Movies

[purpleyin]

Thanks for the clarification, it's been approved as "Annabeth Chase (Percy Jackson Books)/Dick Grayson (DCU)/Percy Jackson (Percy Jackson Books)"