Nomination Questions #1

[settiai]

The tag set is here: https://archiveofourown.org/tag_sets/2627

Nominations have been open since last night, and we already have a decent number of fandoms and relationships added to the tag set. That said, I have a few updates and questions for participants so far.

First of all, considering the crossovers between the two, any relationships for Once Upon a Time in Wonderland (TV) should be nominated under Once Upon a Time (TV).

So far, the following Final Fantasy games have been nominated: Final Fantasy I, Final Fantasy Tactics, Final Fantasy V, Final Fantasy VI, Final Fantasy XIII Series, and Final Fantasy XV. While I'm familiar with some of the FF games, I haven't played all of them. From general fannish osmosis, I know that it's common to leave at least several of these separate for exchanges, but I wanted to get some feedback from people who are more knowledgeable than I am in regards to what would work best. Should they all remain separate, or would it be better to merge any of them?

I have a similar question related to the various DC comic series. I haven't read them regularly in over a decade, so while I'm familiar with some of the older events, more recent ones are a different story. So far, nominations include the main DCU (Comics) tag as well as Grayson (Comics) and DCU (Earth-0 Post-Flashpoint). From the little that I know about Flashpoint, my assumption is that DCU (Earth-0 Post-Flashpoint) should remain its own separate fandom (although please let me know if I'm mistaken). Is Grayson (Comics) dissimilar enough that it should be listed as a separate fandom, though, or should it be brought in under DCU (Comics)? Please chime in if you're familiar with the fandoms in question.

Last but not least, I have a question about one specific nomination.

For the person who requested Dragon Age - All Media Types, Cassandra Pentaghast/Cullen Rutherford/Female Qunari and Iron Bull/Dorian Pavus/Male Qunari, I wanted to confirm that you meant a generic qunari and not a specific named character such as Adaar. Please let me know if you did mean a specific character, and I will edit the tags for you.

While there will be a period after nominations close for going through the tag set looking for duplicates and other issues, please leave a comment if you notice any problems. There have already been a few relationships that have gone wandering into various fandoms, and - while I'm trying to correct spelling errors and the like as I approve nominations - there's a good chance that some will slip through without my noticing.

Comments

[fleetsparrow]

AFAIK, one of the characters nominated in Grayson hasn't shown up in anything since that comic, though I could be mistaken. Plus, there are two characters with the same name: Helena Bertinelli who was in Grayson and is now in the current DCU, and Helena Bertinelli who was in the pre-reboot DCU, who is considered a different character.

[settiai]

Thanks for the information!

[kalloway]

All of those Final Fantasy games you've listed are separate games with unique characters and stories, unrelated to each other.

[settiai]

Thank you! I knew that the ones that I was familiar with would probably be better off as separate fandoms, but I wasn't certain about all of them.

[exchangebench]

A good shorthand: FF games with different numbers are completely separate. FF games that can be merged, tagset-wise, will share a prefix with each other. e.g. Final Fantasy III and Final Fantasy IV are different, while Final Fantasy X and Final Fantasy X-2 can safely be combined (although they don't have to be).

(Sorry if I'm butting in, I just wanted to save you some time/research in the future!)

[settiai]

Thank you! I appreciate the advice!

[silveradept]

Yes, this. The games that are direct sequels all share the same Final Fantasy number - IV -> IV: The After Years, X -> X-2, and XIII -> XIII-2 -> Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII.

Final Fantasy VII could use the "Compilation of Final Fantasy VII" tag to capture the games (VII, Crisis Core, Dirge of Cerbrerus - all of which have Final Fantasy VII in their official titles) and the movie, and the other material that hasn't made a transatlantic trip.

[settiai]

Thank you! That's very helpful information.

[bonstrosity]

The Dragon Age Qunari person is me! And yep, any Qunari, not specifically the Inquisitor :D

[settiai]

Thanks! That's what I suspected, but I wanted to be certain. :)

[sirvalkyrie]

Grayson (Comics) is part of DCU (Earth-0 Post-Flashpoint). It is the specifically same Helena and not the Helena from before Flashpoint. So if Grayson were merged to anything it would make more sense to use Earth-0 Post-Flashpoint than to use DCU (Comics).

[settiai]

Thank you for the information!

[rivulet027]

For Power Rangers would you want that as one nomination or the separate seasons as separate nomination? Also would you consider the TV show different from the movie since they use same character names, but different characters?

[settiai]

How much crossover is there between the various seasons? My knowledge of Power Rangers TV show stops around the late 90s, so I'm willing to defer to people who know the fandom when it comes to what they think would be best.

I would consider the movie its own separate fandom, though. While the names might be the same, there are definitely some significant differences between the two versions of the characters.

[rivulet027]

I think the movie and tv show would need to be separate. Most of the TV show takes place in the same universe, though RPM has said they're from another universe and likely Dino Charge too...but they still have had cameo's and crossovers with the current show.

[sirvalkyrie]

The Power Rangers TV show all takes place in the same multiverse. Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers through Power Rangers in Space tell one continuous story. Power Rangers Lost Galaxy has notable connections to previous seasons including a former villain returning as a ranger. Many seasons have a team up with a previous season. The red ranger of Dino Thunder is related to a character in Ninja Storm. The mentor of Dino Thunder is one of the characters from the first season. Power Rangers Wild Force sees all the previous Red Rangers except one returning. Mystic Force has the redeemed first season villainess as the leader of all good magic. Power Rangers Megaforce has the team using the powers of every previous team as well as a battle that brings back almost every previous ranger either in suit or as a civilian. Power Rangers Ninja Steel also has a team up with multiple previous seasons. Power Rangers RPM and Power Rangers Dino Charge are in a different universe, but it is canonically the same multiverse with the RPM Red Ranger coming to help the Red Samurai Ranger and the RPM Silver Ranger & Dino Charge Blue participating in a battle with other veterans in Ninja Steel.

The most recent movie should be treated as its own continuity. It is a completely separate universe that doesn't even interact with the others in the comics.

As a note, the Power Ranger tags for the character Trini are all incorrect with regards to the show. Her name is Trini Kwan and AO3 mods stripped her of her last name because the movie never used one for her, despite the fact that she is still an actively used character in the Power Rangers comic series.

[rivulet027]

Thanks! That was more through than I was up for. I didn't realize that RPM and Dino Charge were the same universe. That kinda sucks for the Dino Charge characters. When did they reveal that? I'm so not caught up on Ninja Steel, it was probably the crossover.

[sirvalkyrie]

No, they aren't in the same world. They and the main universe are all three different universes in the same multi-verse.

[rivulet027]

Okay, that's what I thought it was. Must have misunderstood your explanation, though something might have happened in the crossover I haven't watched yet. Thanks. :)

[settiai]

Thank you for the detailed explanation! Based on that, I think that it would probably be best to have one listing for the movie (which has already been nominated under Power Rangers (2017)) and for one for all the TV seasons. Let's go with Power Rangers (TV) for the tv fandom.

[bonstrosity]

In the Buffy fandom, Angel/Spike/Buffy Summers (BtVS) and Buffy Summers/Spike/Angel are there as a repeat.

[settiai]

Thanks! There should just be one of them listed now.

[sirvalkyrie]

Not my nomination but Kara Danvers/Lena Luthor/James "Jimmy" Olsen is showing up under DCU Comics. That's probably meant to be an Arrowverse nomination and wandered.

[settiai]

Thanks! It does look like it was showing up under both fandoms (as well as under Smallville), but it should only be showing up under the Arrowverse now.

[sirvalkyrie]

I haven't seen Smallville, but it looks like more tags have wandered into it. But I don't think Bruce Wayne or Diana ever showed up in it and there are a bunch of tags under Smallville with one or the other.

[settiai]

Yeah, I'm having issues with a lot of the various DC tags moving about. I'm working on rounding them up now.